Battleship 100 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Team New Zealand Ceo in Tauranga today, apparently they are scouting alternative locations because Auckland may be to hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 It's got a lot going for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattm 98 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Unless the Port of Tauranga are thinking of using public support for the cup to advance their long held desire to extend the Sulphur Point side of the port out into the middle of the harbour, where would they put the bases? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Plenty of Room at the Mt Maunganui Side of the Port. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattm 98 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Available room? Or room needed by the port? Can’t see them reducing operations for a couple of years while they build bases and have the cup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 They would have to move some logs but loads of room. There is also the area near Hutchinson's boat yard which has been earmarked as a marine precinct which would be ideal. Deep water and easy access to the public. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The trick would be to develop something that would continue to have economic value after the event ends. The tear-down after Bermuda was pretty sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 From the TYPBC newsletter. a bit of a surprise to get a call from Dick Meacham of Emirates Team New Zealand on Monday saying that he, Kevin Shoebridge and Ray Davies wanted to come down and have a look at Tauranga with a view to considering it as a possibility to host the Americas Cup Challenger series and the Americas Cup between January and March of 2021. This was to be a top secret visit but by the time they got here yesterday they had changed their minds about that and were happy for us to publicise it. Hence I can talk about it here. It seems that preparations and even plans for preparations are going very slowly in Auckland and they are getting concerned. They have to announce the venue by August of next year and they believe that works would have to be underway by June. They are concerned that that deadline might not be achievable and so they are considering other options. If all else fails the event would be held in Italy and we all understand that would be a tragic loss for NZ. Can Tauranga do it? It would require a big involvement from Port of Tauranga to accommodate the 3 hectares for the 8 or so teams plus a village somewhere, plus facilities to host a lot of superyachts. To me, the thought of achieving this is mind boggling, but you could tell that these guys were used to getting things done and were not put-off by these logistical challenges. Their next stop after seeing the harbour and race area (outside the harbour off Mount and Papamoa beaches) was a meeting with Port of Tauranga. They said at that stage that ‘Tauranga was still a legitimate option’. So who knows what will happen from here. If nothing else our contribution will probably have ruffled a few feathers in Auckland at least, and may get things moving up there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/poisoned-chalice Be careful is all I'd say to the TYPBC and remember what can happen to a host when parasites come to visit. Other than that give it hell, if Auckland isn't getting on with it then it must go somewhere else and better Tauranga than Italy. Looking around Auckland these days you'd have to say development is really causing a bit of chaos, I do wonder if the super shitty could cope with another set of road works in the middle of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Agreed but It would be nice if some non industrial development were to take place on the waterfront sort of like happened with the viaduct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 32 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Hmmm... Port Nikau in whangarei. Just sitting there ready to go? http://portnikau.co.nz/about/location/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tazzy Devil 18 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Long way to anywhere suitable to lay a course from Port Nikau though (would need to be in bream bay). Marsden cove is not very full though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Plus it's probably a bit shallow isn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 32 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Plus it's probably a bit shallow isn't it? 2.5m below chart datum at the travel lift. A dedge would make it lower I would imagine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 It would need to 2.5 isn't nearly enough plus that depth would be need all the way out to the course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 32 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 It would need to 2.5 isn't nearly enough plus that depth would be need all the way out to the course. What drafts would AM cup mono's like these have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 What drafts would AM cup mono's like these have? All conjecture at this stage but Volvo 65's are 4.8 meters and IMOCA 60's are 4.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 32 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 All conjecture at this stage but Volvo 65's are 4.8 meters and IMOCA 60's are 4.5 Ahhh...roger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 supposedly we will hear where council are planning the bases today but so far it seems there is still no consensus or money so no viable plan goff would have been crying + blaming wellington for his inability to run his city if the nats were in power but now it's his mates who will he blame? won't be himself and his dysfunctional council http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11943219 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muzled 140 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 It does seem an argument worth exploring whether to use what space we have (and have the camps in 3 different locations) rather than shell out $80-$100M to build a wharf that sticks out further into the harbour though doesn't it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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